Raven's_Primal_Overtones

Submitted: 17-Jan-2006 by Raven
Download preset: s_Primal_Overtones.bwg
Download background: primal7.wav

Rating  

2.5 stars with 109 votes.
Cast your vote

---

User comments

20-Jan-2006, Jerry

What does it do you for.

21-Jan-2006, Raven

Q: "What does it do for you?" A: I think the only answer I can give is, "What is it that you want to do with it?" As stated, this is a theta induction. Theta is used for meditation, relaxation, lucid dreaming, etc. What it does depends largely on what you're using it for. If it "does" anything for you personally I'd be interested in hearing about it. By the way, the original overtone I used was much different than the one presented here (and in my opinion much more interesting and useful,) but was far too large to include on this website. As I recall it fell into the 31mb range. However, if anyone would like to have access to it I will upload it somewhere and make it available. ~R~

25-Jan-2006, tozzie

wow, great preset, do u think u could up that original plz thanx

04-Feb-2006, Raga

It is a mind-blowing preset! I sincerely admit it is nothing like what I have heard ever before. In fact, I am listening to it even as I am writing it. I feel that after all, Raven, your 30-year experience in this field has given us a great gift. Thanks!

09-Feb-2006, Raven

I'm very gratified that you enjoy the preset. It's my sincere hope that it assists you in some small way towards improving the quality of your life. I'll soon be uploading another preset having to do with the Schuman 7.83 resonance (although the latest research indicates that's gone up to something more like 11 now!) To those who may be looking for the larger background wav file I mentioned earlier, there was a glitch in the file and I removed it. I will shortly be uploading it again for any who are interested in using it in place of the small file I included here with this preset. Best wishes to all. ~R~

10-Feb-2006, GREAVER

what can i say this preset is a masterpiece brilliant job my freind

10-Feb-2006, Raven

Many thanks for the compliment. The preset itself, if you looked at it closely, is simple. But in my world, simple is good... gooder... gooderest? A suggestion you might want to try. Find yourself a nice, slow, deeply intoned "OM", or "AUM" sound, and substitute that for the background file. You might enjoy the results. ~R~

16-Feb-2006, Justin

Excellent!

01-Mar-2006, Dr. Nick

Hello Everybody! Lovely preset! Even with the "faulty" background music. I found there was a new version, when I came to write the review, I'm downloading it as I write. Hats off Raven. I can't wait to test your Schuman preset. Best Regards and Goodbye Everybody!

05-Mar-2006, pop

This preset works quite well. I'm feeling nicely tired now, I could sleep through the night.. that's also to say.. i want to listen more but i have kind of a real desire to turn on my side and try to drift off completely.. but i can't because i have really big headphones. maybe I should listen in the morning. :P not really sure what I should go for with listening to this.. I guess I have a really messed up mind and life and want something to help me.. something to lighten my mood to get back into that inspirable state of mind, that has that sense of wonderment, free of dullness and anxiety and disheartenedment, frustration, etc... the way people get after being in a rut for months and dont know how to get out because they give up on themselves and become lost.. I don't know why I'm rambling about this in comments, but I guess I'm trying to say that maybe I have some faith in this because it apparently has the power to alter states of mind, which in turn can shed insight on many problems.. i suppose it's working, I'm feeling pretty coherant in my thoughts, lol

07-Mar-2006, Dr. Nick

Hello Everybody! I downloaded the new Maya backgound, and added visuals to track biaural beat frequency. Im using it with "flash full screen" and it works even better (if such thing is possible :) By the way, I find it poetic that stupid and mean people get disgusting effects. Thanks again for such a nice preset! Goodbye Everybody! Dr. Nick (Self-Existing Wizard)

07-Mar-2006, Raven

The Maya 12-21-2012 preset is very relaxing to me. I find it provides a calming background sound even used over open speakers. The preset library here hasn't been taking uploads for several weeks. Dr Nick, did you have any difficulty downloading it from that 3rd party storage site? ~R~

10-Mar-2006, sstone

finally I did "lucid dreaming" again this night. Thanks a lot.

16-Mar-2006, Wuli

Can I make my eyes fixed on a picture when listen to this tones?

17-Mar-2006, Raven

If it focuses your concentration there should be no problem. Let me presume you are using this preset for purposes of meditation. You may meditate for health reasons, such as relaxation, feelings of calm, etc., or you may meditate as a form of spiritual development. These goals are not necessarily mutually exclusive however, the method of meditation used does take on slightly different forms. Remember, there's no such thing (despite what some of the large companies who crank out CDs with binaural tracks on them say,) as a binaural program that "meditates you", such that all you have to do is sit back, put on the headphones, then think about anything and everything under the sun that you want to while the binaural waves magically do all the work. That's a fairy tale. Anyone who tells you otherwise wants to make a buck off you. If your purposes are primarily to relax, to gain a greater sense of peace, to rest the body and the mind, then some kind of picture conducive to these goals may or may not assist you along with a binaural wave program. That's the basic idea behind meditating on mandalas, or Native American sand paintings and so forth. Although you might just as well use a picture of a seascape or a beautiful sunset or some other peaceful image. Keep in mind, the objective is not to "think about" the picture, but to become absorbed in the essence of it. You are leaving the "self" behind so that you can better experience the "Self". This "Self" can only be experienced in the present moment. Not in the past. Not in the future. So using a photo that has strong memories associated with it, for example, a picture of your kids or your girlfriend/boyfriend or your pet, etc., probably wouldn't serve very will. It conjures up too many thoughts of the past and/or future and drags you out of that present moment awareness you're striving to reach. So keep to something relaxing, but something that does not have great emotional siginficance to you. As for the second type of meditation, all of what I wrote above applies, but the restrictions are even more stringent. Remember that meditation techniques for spiritual growth are just that; they are techniques. And the technique is NOT meditation. Meditation on that level is not something you "do". It is a state of consciousness you already have. You simply don't experience it because of all the thoughts, images, cares, worries, hopes, desires, etc., that drown it out. For instance, many people believe that if they focus their attention on counting their breath, and can do so without letting other thoughts encroach, then they are meditating. In fact what they are doing is concentrating. Breath counting is just a technique to clear away the excess mental/emotional clutter. But the breath counting technique in itself is yet another piece of clutter. Eventually it, too, must be released before that pure awareness of the present moment can be experienced. The same holds for using pictures as a point of focus. They may be of some help initially provided the are conducive to focusing and quieting the restless mind/emotion clutter. But having gotten you to that point they become an obstacle in and of themselves if they are not left behind. Think of it like the difference between a crutch, and a bridge. A crutch is something you lean on to help you get over the obstacle of a physical injury. The problem is that if you continue to use the crutch beyond what is necessary it becomes something you feel you "need" on a permanent basis. You become habituated to it and do not feel you can function properly anymore without it. On the other hand, a bridge also helps you get over an obstacle. The difference being, once you've crossed the bridge you're past the obstacle, and you leave both it and the bridge behind. So if you utilize some kind of image (or even binaural wave programs for that matter,) make sure you're using it as a bridge, not a crutch. Best wishes, ~R~

18-Mar-2006, Wuli

Thank you,Raven. There are some Yoga meditations that meditators look at a candle (or a picture) when meditating. Then they close their eyes but still see the candle (or the picture). They claim that this exercise may help to reach a higher level meditation, and may help to see some strange things (such as light) in their body. In this situation, is the candle used as a bridge or a crutch?

18-Mar-2006, Raven

Einstein once wrote that what we see depends largely on where we stand. To an average Joe like you or I the candle might well be a bridge that helps us along on our way. But if we are already developed past the need for the candle, then to continue walking back and forth over the same bridge would serve little purpose. In that case it would be a needless crutch. ~R~

25-Mar-2006, yls

hey, can i change the length from 20 to 60 minutes without consequences?

26-Mar-2006, Raven

You can change the length to whatever you desire. One thing that happens is that the descent from the starting Hz point is stretched out proportionately to the lengthening of the overall preset. For example, if you have a 20 minute preset, and during the first 5 minutes the Hz goes from 12Hz down to say, 4Hz, and you lengthen the overall preset length to 60 minutes (in other words, it is now 3 times as long as the original version,) then the time it takes to go from 12Hz down to 4Hz lengthens by 3 times as well, from 5 minutes to 15 minutes. Not necessarily a bad thing, but you might want to edit that descent to shorten it back to something a little less than 15 minutes again. Or maybe you want a nice, slow, 15 minute wind-down. It's up to you. ~R~

07-Apr-2006, D-DOGG

GREAT preset Raven, definately one of the best I've found so far. especially like the origional background sound

10-Apr-2006, Niki

Dear friends, I am using the BrainWave generator, but I have a problem: when I use the test right(or left) channel in Configuration Wizard I also hear a very low volume of this sound in the another channel. I used about three computers with differnt sound card and disabled all these configuration. but the problem did not removed. Is it a serious problem to use the software? How can I do? Sincerely, N.B

10-Apr-2006, Raven

Are you running the sound check over speakers or over headphones? ~R~

19-Apr-2006, goose

When I try to import the preset, I get the following error message "unable to import the background file Maya 12-21-2012.wav" Any idea what is happening? thanks

20-Apr-2006, Ravem

Bwgen gives you that error if the background sound file name does not match exactly the name it was given when the preset was originally created. I suspect you may be using the preset itself downloaded from the library site for Bwgen, and the background sound from that third party site I uploaded it to, or vice versa. My best suggestion is to download both the preset and the background from that third party site I gave links to above. Those two files should match perfectly and you won't get the error message you mentioned. Let me know if that does not work for some reason. If you've got a broadband connection I could try zipping them and e-mailing them to you. ~R~

20-Apr-2006, Wuli

Is the "Schuman's Evening 7.83" used for meditation or for learning backgroud music?

21-Apr-2006, Raven

It could be used for either. 7.83Hz is right there at the border where very low alpha turns into a high theta. That's a nice, relaxed state but still with good alertness of mind, and that's a nice beginning point for meditation. ~R~

25-Apr-2006, Whheezzzz

Raven i think you are a very smart and intellectual person who has made many personal and social achievments of greater enhanceing the human mind and ways to build upon it in a healthy and mature fashion.I do beleive though my opinion of course,is that i think that not all people are so you say "permanent marker sniffers" ;) if people want to use this program and the availble presets as well as other programs like it that induce theta/beta waves of the brain to achieve a deeper sate of realxation/awareness/state of mind/Lucid-dreams/Astral profection/remote viewing/suggestive writing or anything dealing with the subconcious mind and in or out of this reality should be commended on trying to reach greater bounds of the human mind and different levels of conciousness. I give them a high five,there has been no study or statistics that i have heard that no one has died or severely injured for haveing a rapid O.B.E or any other mindset thats out there.i think this program is much better method or any other method for that matter is better than say someone "sniffing a magic marker" or LSD or heroin or mushrooms or any other type of hullcinagenic drug or plant/which is far more daungerous.And tp tell people to go sniff a permanent marker is not very professional.Kudos to all that enrich their lives in a natural way or have overcame obstacles/habbits/disorder/addictions with the use of the human mind/brain and the safe natural tools that are available

26-Apr-2006, Raven

Whheezzz, I agree with everything in your post. I believe if you go back and read my original post carefully you will see that my comment regarding "magic markers" was not directed at people attempting to better themselves. It was aimed at those who are, by their own admission, attempting to get a cheap "high" without having to pay the expense of drugs. Read some of their posts. They make it clear that is their sole intent in using Bwgen. In those cases I stand by what I wrote. Magic markers are cheaper and faster. You may feel such a statement is unprofessional, but then on this board I'm not a professional. Just one of the gang sharing his experiences and opinions. Besides, my comment was simply the use of hyperbole (an exaggerated statement to make a point,) and not to be considered in the literal sense. Any attempt to "catch a buzz" just for the fun of it is, in my opinion, a poor use of one's time. It makes no difference whether it is done chemically, electronically or in some other fashion. From the standpoint of improving yourself, the object is to transcend our common state of consciousness. "Catching a buzz" is an attempt to distract one's self away from common reality. In other words, it only adds an additional layer of illusion rather than penetrating and transcending the original state. From that point of view it is diametrically opposed to self-improvement. Hope that clarifies what I wrote for you a bit. ~R~

27-Apr-2006, Whheezzzz

Thanks for the post back Raven.I undestand what you were promoting now,thanks for calrification.I agree with what you say also how alot of people are out there to just get a cheap high or buzz if you will.I havent really read any other posts except this one so thats lack of insight on myself.I understand and agree whith what your saying it just seems to me,my opinion only of course is that is "someone" is looking for a quick fix/buzz then i would think that doing something natural would be much better than delving into unknown regions of the chemically induced world.ALthough their notions may be somewhat altered on the reasoning to get that quick buzz in the first place,i do beleive that in time, maybe not the first or second time that person would do such a thing but eventually they might/hopefully realize that there is a deeper meaning to to tools they are useing instead of "Just getting Off" so to speak.Then they can use those tools responsibley and maturely.I just think its a shame that the world has so many drug/alchahol realted problems and addictions that only if those people would get to the underlying problem of why they got that way in the first place and then use tools like this one to help them through it and become a better person inside and out thanks for your postings Raven its always nice to talk to someone who shares the same intrests/passions of something else beisides work,sex,beer -=;)

01-May-2006, Grammaton

Extremely relaxing, and a joy to listen too, thank you Raven excellent work. Will deffiently be usefull while meditating after qigong excerises that i am begining again, and my now daily meditations. Once again thank you very much for this wonderful preset i hope to see and hear more of your excellent work.

03-May-2006, marcho

Can someone tell me why I am unable to download these mentioned Raven's files from www.savefile.com ? I offers me button/link for download this "Raven_old.wav", and on next screen it says : Downloading raven_old.wav ... and nothing happens. Same with Maya preset.

03-May-2006, Raven

The SaveFile site appears to be running slow at the moment. When downloading the files I provided be patient. Eventually the download begins. At that point it runs at something like normal speeds. If the wait gets to be too long I'll upload files elsewhere and post a link. ~R~

23-May-2006, Ellis

Hello Raven, Love the fact that all of your responses to the various questions are nice and long. It just goes to show how passionate you are about the subject. Do you have your own personal website? If you do, I would love to check it out. Thanks.

23-May-2006, Ravens

I produce entrainment products for corporate and government clients who do not as a rule go out web surfing. You respond to the contract they put out for bid. In other cases I get referred by previous clients to do work for new ones. As a result I've never put up a website for corporate use. However, I am putting together a website to make some of the more advanced entrainment products available to the pubic. It's a slow process I've been working on the for the past month or two. When it is online I'll announce it here. I hope to be able to provide entrainment tracks utilizing all three binaural, monaural and isochronic wave forms in combination, which is light years ahead of anything else you find on the market today. My philosophy, as I've stated before, is that these kinds of tools should be available to everyone, not just those who live in wealthy countries, so the prices will be far less than what you would pay through groups like Centerpointe, the Monroe Institute, and others. In addition I will also be open to creating commissioned works if someone has an idea for something they really want. That kind of work will be a little more expensive, but still far below what you will find anywhere else. So keep reading and watching. As I get time the website will eventually go online. In the meantime, go to the links I provided above where I've listed 4 tracks that are available for free. No strings attached. ~R~

24-May-2006, Zyzyggy

Hi Raven, Thank you for sharing these wonderful files and presets. However, there is one criticism that seems very important: in your post marked April 9, you shared the Schuman's Evening, which is very nice, but you said "... research suggests that 60 beats per second facilitates quicker learning ..." Isn't that statement incorrect? SuperLearning was a fascinating book, but the baroque music the researchers used was at 60 beats per minute. At 60Hz, your entrainment file would be well above beta brain waves at 3600 beats per minute. I hope you will correct this error, because I would really love to listen to one of your compositions designed for super learning. I have a degree in psychology and I'm working on a masters in linguistics right now, which is very difficult for me, and I need every brain boost I can get. Let me know if I can be of any further assistance to you. Zyzyggy

25-May-2006, Raven

Zyzyggy, you are 110% correct. When I wrote that I was thinking "60 beats per minute, that makes 1 beat per second," and I mixed the two and came up with "60 beats per second". My typo. Much thanks for catching my goof. 60 beats per second. Wouldn't that give you seizures trying to tap your toes to that beat! ~R~

25-May-2006, Raven

Tell you what I'm going to do, Zyzyggy. Since you caught my error I figure I owe you one. Tell me what sort of background sounds you find soothing. Give me a number of different kinds of sounds that you like so I've got some lattitude to work with. I'll write up a program in your honor and upload it with the others I've already given people access to. Let's see if we can help you along a bit earning that Master's degree! Best wishes, ~R~

25-May-2006, Zyzyggy

Raven, Thanks again for your great generosity and inspiration. My favorite sounds would include all the usual nature soundscapes, particularly ocean waves, waterfalls, garden birds and babbling brooks. I found the nature sounds included with BWGEN to be too short and mechanical sounding, so anything with comparatively more chaotic naturalness would be great. Bamboo flute sounds good too, echoing across the lagoon of some south pacific island at twilight. Take good care and I look forward to your next masterpiece. Zyzyggy

29-May-2006, Hurricane

Hey Raven, I really like your work. It really enhances my meditation. I do have a question since you have so much experience with meditation and visualisation. I was wondering how you would go about curing Social Anxiety/Depression. I read your pdf-file where u stated how you should go about losing weight/curing anxiety but my problem is that when I visualise how I would be without the anxiety I get more frustrated and feel bad the whole day. Would it be wiser for me to just practice meditation so I would feel more calm in everyday life and pay less attention to my thoughts? Thanks in advance!

29-May-2006, Raven

Hurricane, I'm not a medical doctor or psychologist, and you need to understand that up front. Some kinds of anxiety and depression have a medical basis and require very specific kinds of medical intervention. Make sure you seek medical care if it is warranted. Having said that, there are definite benefits to using brainwave entrainment technology, meditation, and most recently there has been some striking progress made using a particular breathing technique to control stress, tension, anxiety, depression and hypertension. In my view these can all be of great use in conquering anxiety/depression problems, either by themselves for mild cases, or as adjuncts to conventional treatments if you are under a doctor's care. This forum really isn't set up for us to have a detailed discussion of these things and I don't want to take advantage of the good folks at Bwgen here by using their board for long discussions not directly related to entrainment. I will make you a deal. You do two things for me. First, if it is warranted, make sure you get professional medical care for your condition. And second, send me an e-mail giving me a little more detail on your particular case. For instance, is it chemically caused, i.e., by endocrinological imbalances, use of chemical substances, i.e., alcohol, drugs, etc. Or is it psychologically based, meaning there are no known chemical connections; it's purely a matter of how you process information and perceptions that leads to the feelings of stress or anxiety. If you give me that much information I will give you some detailed data on entrainment, meditation and particularly breathing that I think you will find useful. I'll upload that information (obviously without giving out any direct references to you,) on the site where I have uploaded the other materials referenced here on the Bwgen site. One last thought: Don't feel discouraged. Anxiety and depression issues are one of the fastest growing set of issues our culture faces today. Fortunately, they are also one of the most treatable. And when you do overcome them it will give you one of the greatest feelings of accomplishment you can imagine! Look forward to hearing from you, ~R~

12-Jun-2006, Joeyd

lol this is a great preset. a second ago i was dreaming with this on and i all of a sudden recognized that i was dreaming. unfortuneately i woke up but its good to know it works and i will be using it for later use. thankS!

19-Jun-2006, natura

I'll like to say 2 things: 1.It works. 2.I would like to make a proposition: In order to avoid lose quality, you could upload Eternity 5.5 , Maya II 12-21-2012 , Rainforest 5.5 , Schuman's Evening 7.83 and Flow 8.0 in a file format like .zip, .ace , .rar or some other format that can be uncompressed to the original size without loses. Thanks for ALL.

19-Jun-2006, Joe

Hi Raven, You state above that: "…many people write presets that involve multiple binaural beat tracks. For example, they may write a tract with alpha, another with beta and two or three more intermixing theta and a couple of delta or what have you. These they interweave all at the same time. As "cool" as this seems the effect is less than useful. In fact it may prove to be stressful on the brain." However, as far as I can see, your session does exactly that. After the descent into “pure 4hz theta”, you are left with the voices at Voice one (4hz) L78 R82 Voice two (4hz) L74 R78 Voice three (4hz) L70 R74 Voice four (4hz) L66 R70 Voice five (4hz) L66 R70 Voice six (4hz) L118 R122 Since these are all playing simultaneously, as well as your 4hz theta beats… -The left channel of voice two (74hz) and the right of voice one (82hz) produces an 8hz binaural beat – an alpha wave. - Voice three’s left channel (70hz) and voice one’s right (82hz) - producing a 12hz binaural - an alpha/beta wave. - Voice four(L) and one(R)produce a 16hz binaural – a mid beta wave - Voice six(L) and one(R) produce a 36hz binaural - a gamma wave And so on. In all it seems you’ve got most of the spectrum through from theta to alpha, to beta, to gamma waves throughout your preset, something clearly not in accord with your principles of composition. Are you aware of this? Do you account for this in your professional compositions? Assuming I haven’t made a blunder here, I apologise for being the bringer of irritating news. Seems it’s a tremendously popular preset whatever the frequencies produced! Regards, Joe.

20-Jun-2006, chillgirl

This preset quickly became one of my favorites. I listen to it regularly, in combination with 'Satori' and 'You want astral, you got astral'. Thank you for sharing it. It's a work of art and function--feeds the spirit.

20-Jun-2006, Raven

Hi, Joe. I understand your reasoning, and at first glance you might get the impression I am violating my own rule of thumb. However, look a little deeper and you will see that I have employed a trick. It would be easier to demonstrate if I could do so in diagram form, but let me give it a try just explaining it with words. Hopefully it will become clear. You are absolutely correct when you cite the 8, 12, 16 and 32Hz waves, however, consider what each of these numbers has in common for a moment. OK, I'll let you off the hook...each of them is divisible evenly by the number 4. Now, keep in mind, a binaural beat is produced wherever two waves reach a point of intersection. If you could visualize each of the above waves as a nice, smooth Sine curve you would see that the only points at which they intersect are the peaks and the valleys. Nowhere between the peak or the crest do they cross each other. If there were such crossings they would represent a binaural beat that is out of synch with the 4Hz wave. In effect this is what you get. You have your initial 4Hz beat. Exacty 4Hz later it repeats however, added to it is the peak of the 8Hz wave at exactly the same moment. It is not in conflict with the 4Hz wave, it is exactly synchronous with it, only it is added in terms of the strength of the beat (i.e., you now have two beats hitting at exactly the same moment thereby doubling the strength of either one.) Exactly 4Hz later you reach the peak of the 12Hz wave, again, synchronous with the 4Hz wave and, again, doubling it's strength. Then you go another 4Hz later and you get the 4Hz wave, the 8Hz wave and the 16Hz wave, all synchronous, tripling the strength of the initial 4Hz wave, and so forth. Is there a 36Hz wave in there? Yes, but your brain does not register that fact because the peak and the valley of that wave fall exactly synchronous with all the other waves. Now, what would have happened had I introduced say, a 3Hz wave into the equation? It would have peaked exactly 1Hz after the before the 4Hz wave giving me a binaural beat both on the count of 3 and on 4. On the way down to the valley the 3Hz wave would hit bottom 2 counts after the peak of the 4Hz wave, giving me a binaural beat on 3, 4, 6, and 8 (the point at which the original 4Hz wave reaches its first valley.) Now, throw into the mix a couple more waves, like a Schuman, or an 11Hz, then a 5Hz, etc., and you can see that the number of binaural beats assaulting your brain quickly reaches a point of near chaotic complexity. Your brain will not have the slightest clue which one of these dozens of ever-shifting beat patterns it is supposed to be entraining to. So, long story short, exact multiples, if chosen carefully, reinforce each other. Your target Hz frequency should be the slowest frequency you choose. Any other higher frequencies you must be evenly divisible by this lowest frequency. Please keep in mind, the programs I produce are based on my own research and experience. I offer them to you for what they are worth. The bottom line is always going to be, how does listening to any particular program leave you feeling? A well constructed program should leave you refreshed, relaxed, focused and energized (and yes, you can be all of these things and more at the same time!) On the other hand, if you feel agitated, excited (as in caffeine jitters kind of excited,) anxious, uncomfortable, fuzzy-headed, etc., you aren't doing yourself any favors by continuing to listen to that program. Your body/mind knows what's good and what's not. Pay attention when it tells you what it nourishes it and what disturbs it. I hope that helps a little. Thanks for the question, Joe. It was a good one. ~R~

20-Jun-2006, Raven

Unfortunately the site I use to provide these programs has a 60Mb size limit per file. The originals are close to 700Mb in size. No amount of compression will get them down small enough for upload to the SaveFile site without grossly compromising the quality. Just to upload the ones that are there I had to cut them down in length from 60 to 20 minutes and then compress them into MP3 format. Ideally, you want these files in full Wav format, uncompressed and pristine. I will put up a website (I know I've said that before) where you can order an assortment of programs on CD. Don't worry, they won't cost an arm and a leg like some companies charge. I have also received quite a few requests for additional information on meditation and breathing techniques. I'll make those available as well, though it takes time to write them out. Usually when I teach meditation I do so one-on-one, not because you need a "guru" or any of that sort of thing, but because it's just easier for me to see what you are doing and guide you along than to try to anticipate possible question or situation and answer it in writing before it comes up. So I will get this all accomplished one of these days, hopefully before too much longer. Tell you what. Since you raised the issue I'll make you a deal. E-mail me your mailing address (don't put it on this bulletin board for the whole world to see or you're likely to get USPS spammed!) Specify any 3 of the 5 programs I've uploaded. I'll burn the 20 minute version of the 3 you choose to CD and mail it to you free gratis this time. That way you get a taste of what they're meant to sound like without loss of audio quality. Best wishes, ~R~

21-Jun-2006, Raven

In the interest of time, have a look at the download I uploaded regarding brainwave entrainment and meditation. Much of what you question is addressed there. But to give you just a very short answer let me make an analogy. Your brain is like a multi-frequency tuning fork; like the tuning fork used to tune a piano. Only your brain is capable of all the frequencies rather than being limited to just one. If you took an ordinary tuning fork built to the pitch of C# that was motionless, and you struck another C# tuning fork and held it near the first one, what would happen to that first tuning fork? The answer is obvious. It would begin to vibrate and entrain with the second fork because they resonate at the same frequency. Now, let's say you've got your brain/multi-freq tuning fork sitting there motionless. You strike a C# fork and hold it near. Remember, your multi-freq fork is capable of vibrating at virtually any pitch up and down the scale. Naturally, it will resonate with and begin vibrating sympathetically with the C# fork that you've struck and placed near it. Take this thought experiment a step further. While the second fork is still vibrating at C#, you take a third fork tuned, let's say to A flat. You strike it and hold it near your multi-freq fork. Then you take a fourth fork at a pitch of F, strike it and hold it near your multi-freq fork as well. What frequency is your multi-freq fork going to resonate to? It has the capacity to resonate with any of them. Which one will it choose, all things being equal? As I said, I went into much more detail in the explanation I uploaded. That would go a long way in answering some of what you asked me here. But keep the tuning fork analogy in mind as you read. Yes, the mind is capable of experiencing more than one frequency at a time, but one will always be dominant. The others are naturally occuring, as I explained in that paper. They are not random, and you cannot force the brain to accept them simply because you have put them into an audio track. At best nothing will happen. Of course you may just send your brain into the cerebral equivalent of cardiac defibrillation by slamming it with all those mixed signals. In the end, as I said before, let your body/mind be your guide. It's like that old joke: "Doctor, my hand hurts like crazy when it hit it with this hammer." "Well then, my young patient, stop hitting your hand with the hammer." Best wishes, ~R~

21-Jun-2006, Raven

Your first point opens a very large can of worms. Can an experienced yogi consciously exhibit multiple brainwave patterns. Perhaps. Perhaps not. More to the point, if he/she could, would he/she bother using a CD to produce brainwave entrainment? Highly doubtful. Those who utilize such tools do so precisely because they DO NOT have that kind of control (if such control in fact exists.) That being the case, as stated in the PDF I provided, those "harmonic brainwaves" (I can't think of a better name for them,) would not be haphazardly placed. They are as they are in accordance with some biological imperative of which you and I are not consciously aware. The body/mind knows what it is (presuming it is functioning properly,) and places those other wave frequencies where they need to be. Think of it like your heart. Most people mistakenly believe their hearts beat, or should beat, at a very precise, unvarying rate. The more even the beat, the better they are. In fact this makes a kind of logical sense but it is wrong. Heart Rate Variability is one of those factors a cardiologist looks at when assessing the proper functioning of a heart. One warning sign of an impending heart problem is when the heart beats too evenly; too perfectly regular. Variability of rate is a sign of health. That being acknowledged, let's assume you could develop a device that would allow you to send a shock; an impulse to contract to the heart whenever you desired. If you were to simply trigger that device at random on a fairly frequent basis your heart would certainly be subjected to "variability" in its beat. But without that innate body/mind intelligence to guide those variable impulses your efforts would be little short of playing cardiac Russian roulette. In my view the same exact principle holds true for brain entrainment. Does the brain have more than one frequency going at any given time? Certainly. Do I consciously know what those frequencies are or should be? Nope. Not a clue. The body/mind knows, but the conscious mind would just be guessing, and the odds are astronomically in favor of you guessing wrong. That is why I take the stand that I'll entrain to a single, dominant frequency; one that is pertinent to the objectives I've set for myself. I'll let the body/mind take care of determining which, if any, other frequencies it wants to throw into the mix. It has the intelligence to do so. I do not. I thought about your initial question as to whether or not the preset I offered violated my own principle. As I mulled it over I hit upon an idea that will perhaps make it more understandable why I have not. Let's take this out of the Hz range and deal with something a little more intelligible to our everyday understanding. Let's deal with seconds. We'll start with a timer that ticks off 100 seconds. To begin, we have our first person clap their hands one time every 50 seconds. In other words, when the timer reaches 50 seconds they clap once. When it reaches 100 seconds they clap a second time. How many claps have we heard in those 100 seconds? Pretty simple. Two claps. OK, we move on and add a second person who is instructed to clap her hands once every 25 seconds. We will presuppose that they clap equally loud and in perfect synchronization with the first person. So at 25 seconds she claps. At 50 seconds they both clap. At 75 seconds she claps again. And at 100 seconds they both clap. How many claps have we heard in those 100 seconds? Easy. Four claps. We now add a third person who is instructed to clap every 5 seconds. So he claps at 5, 10, 15, 20, and at 25 both he and our second clapper clap together. On it continues until 50 at which time all three persons clap together, and so forth all the way up to 100. Now, how many claps have we heard in total? The answer is 20 total claps. Let us suppose that it is possible to entrain the human brain in increments of Claps Per Second (CPS) rather than Hz. In our above example we have a clapper at 50, a clapper at 25, and a clapper at 5. Which of those three clapping frequencies is our imaginary brain going to entrain to? Since each of the larger numbers is divisible by 5, the brain is only going to register a single clap every 5 seconds. Eventhough we have clappers at 25 and 50 the brain will not recognize them as such. It will lump them together with the lowest common denominator, or 5. The principle I used in the preset is the same. The brain will only register the lowest common denominator, or 4Hz. The others will simply blend in and be virtually invisibile in and of themselves. Hope that clarifies what I meant a little better. Best, ~R~

22-Jun-2006, Raven

I understand your point, however, I'll just issue you this challenge. Go through the lists of presets on the Bwgen site and read the comments. Look for ones that say, "First I felt mellow, then I felt excited, then I felt spaced out, then I got anxious, etc." Look at that preset's construction and the odds are you are going to find multiple frequency mixed tracks. Then look at the one I provided, or at another person's work who kept it basic and did not mix tracks. You won't find those erratic mood shifts in the comments. So, does create a negative impact? For my money, yes, it does. Can that negative impact be severe? Any epileptic can tell you they avoid flickering lights. Not all flickering lights set off seizures, but you hit the right combination and a seizure is triggered. Will binaural beats cause similar adverse reactions? Do you really want to act as the test subject to find out? I have two more tracks I'll be uploading, probably later tonight or tomorrow if I get them completed. One is a .05Hz track and the other is a 75Hz track, so I've used Gamma and Epsilon entrainment. I'll be curious to see how people react to them. Probably not many have ever been exposed to the ultra low or ultra high entrainment tracks before, so it may prove an interesting experience. Thanks for all the feedback, Joe. It's good to have someone who keeps you honest! ~R~

22-Jun-2006, Joe

Hi Raven, Ultimately, I think I agree with you. Not least because when people stick six or seven different frequencies together, the whole thing becomes a mess, in part because of the many extra binaural beat frequencies generated by the intermingling of the left and right channels. And I'm being neither obsequious nor disingenuous when I compliment you Raven. What you've produced seems really great. I am a little surprised that you haven't commented on the maths above. You do see that your clapping analogy makes no sense in terms of your argument don't you? Your suggestion that "the higher harmonics fade into the background of the lowest frequency" is illogical if you think it through. It's the complete opposite! You've confused the length between each clap(/beat) with the frequency of each clap(/beat). Read through what I wrote above (and indeed what you wrote) if you don't see what I mean! But do keep up the good work. It's the results that matter - and I'm sure your preset has a strong, dominant 4hz beat - just not according to your explanation above! Regards, Joe.

23-Jun-2006, Raven

You are correct. In my analogy with the clapping I did reverse frequency of clapping. The slower the clapping, the higher the Hz frequency. After reading your post a couple of times I came to recognize that my analogy was in fact backwards. ~R~

23-Jun-2006, natura

Maybe this place is not the appropiate to write about isochronic pulses but… I can´t understand how they work. We can not listen to a ultrasound under 20Hz. Eaven most of the speakers can´t reproduce it. So, how can it work?

23-Jun-2006, Joe

Hi Raven, Well it's good my schoolboy maths hasn't completely deserted me! But as I said, your presets seem to work splendidly anyhow. I look forward to following your future work. Be well, Joe.

23-Jun-2006, natura

When I´ve said ULTRAsound, I mean INFRAsound; of course.

28-Jun-2006, natura

Thanks for the info, Raven. I have proved with BrainWave Generator to make a 7Hz to 4Hz, and with "25% smoothed rectangular wave", it works.:)

12-Jul-2006, Nam

Hello Raven, I downloaded and listened to the preset. Being new to brainwave so I have a couple questions hope you don't mind. How long should I listen it to? It's keep playing for more than 40 minutes now I don't know if I should adjust the time? You mention about custom made preset for clients. Could you please tell me (please email me) how it works, I think I need your help for my own preset. Thanks very much Nam

22-Jul-2006, Orm Embar

Raven, great job. Downloaded everything and trying little by little. Got a q: since I suffer (well, actually I enjoy every minute of it) ADD, theta waves are forbidden. Do you think I can achieve same levels of concentration for meditation with alpha? I have also used theta waves for LD and OOBE, and I have had great experiences. Take care and keep up the good job.

09-Aug-2006, Mark Rowsey

Raven i totally dig your presets very relaxing and soothing on a very shitty day when it seems liek any second the anti-christ is gonna show up and take over the fn world your presets help to bring a bit of solitude an peace to my very bad days but i was wondering can u umm maybe make a guide for us new bies on how to properly make a decent preset i mean ya know just to get us losers started

16-Aug-2006, Mastsun

Hi All... Last week I fall asleep with music on my headphone... I never do this because I have a very delicate headphone... But what happens is that I dreamed the sound of the music, and in the dream I ask to me from where this music came from....(ok after wake up I have realized :).... Now I see that for me this work better than of the "music before to fall asleep", and I want to add some affirmation or intention with music to hear while I sleep... Raven or all the other , can suggest me a good background, noise, tones , and frequencie that can work GOOD to put on with affirmation and hear during the sleep ....??? Thanks this can be very help for me...

16-Aug-2006, Raven

They aren't available anywhere else. I've only uploaded them to that single site. Savefile.com does sometimes do server maintenance that may make some files temporarily unavailable. Give it a few hours or maybe a day or two then try again. If Savefile becomes too unusable I will find an alternative site to upload the files to and provide links to access them. It appears this Bwgen site is accepting uploads once more. I have submitted a couple of new Bwgen presets. If all goes well they should be available any day now for download. ~Raven~

20-Aug-2006, Raven

The files I provided on the Savefile.com website should be available once again within 48 hours. Savefile.com is migrating file servers to improve performance and has suspended all downloading until the migration is complete. I will provide the download links when this process is complete, as the existing links may no longer be valid. ~R~

03-Sep-2006, ggr

It says the file is too long how do i get around this pleas help thanks

03-Sep-2006, Raven

I'm sorry, but without knowing what you are referring to I have no way of knowing what says "the file is too long". To what are you referring? ~R~

13-Sep-2006, satish

Can we listen to these presets while doing other work like on computer or while workout on a treadmill? Is it necessary to attentively listen to it?

14-Sep-2006, Raven

It depends on what entrainment wave you are listening to. Some waves facilitate learning and retention of the studied materials, so yes, you could read or study with that entrainment program on and it would actually improve the quality of your study time. Other frequencies help you to focus, so working on the computer might be more productive if you listened to one of those frequencies. But you can't mix and match frequencies with activities and expect to get desired results. You cannot, for instance, sit down with an entrainment program geared towards helping to attain a meditative state of mind, like a deep theta or even delta frequency, and expect it to help you write a better novel. The activity is in conflict with those particular brainwave patterns. So choose your entrainment frequency to match your planned activity. The information I provided in the download links in an earlier post here regarding entrainment and meditation provides more information about this kind of matching. ~Raven~

16-Sep-2006, satish

Thanks for response, I have downloaded most of your mp3 files and these are excellent, and instantly produced the desired effect as explained by you. Good work keep it up. As you can see i am new to entraining my brainwaves. However i have tried meditation but with little progress/growth. Can we listen to one after another like primal and eternity or awakeningmeditation 6.1. Initially when i tried doing this i got headache. I was scared and stopped using these for some time. Also can we use different entrainment on different days? is it harmful in any way? Thanks in advance.

17-Sep-2006, Raven

Listening to different entrainment programs in series shouldn't produce any ill effects. Logic would suggest you would combine them so that they merge into each other. For instance, you start with a deep theta, move to a higher theta, then to a deep alpha, and so on. I suppose you could mix them up, i.e., start with a deep delta and jump to a theta, then back to an alpha, or something like that. It wouldn't be my personal preference, but I suspect it wouldn't do any harm, either. Regarding headaches, the actual entrainment waves themselves can be heard as "beating" noises. In some programs they are pronounced; in others you can barely hear them at all. If you use headphones, particularly when listening to programs having very audible entrainment waves, that beating sound could cause a headache. If you're using a purely binaural program you have no option about headphones; they are virtually required (unless you can position yourself perfectly in the middle between two standard speakers,) for you to get the benefit of entrainment. In that case your only option is to turn down the volume on the program. If you're going to have drumming going on in your head then at least it should be quiet drumming. On the programs I provided for downloading, each of them is composed using binaural, monaural and isochronic wave patterns. That means you can listen to them without need of headphones. You won't get the binaural effects, but the monaural and isochronic wave entrainment will not be affected by lack of headphones. Try those programs without headphones and see if it gets you around the headache issue. ~R~

02-Oct-2006, Satish

Raven I have this inhibition to go to stage and talk and also clarity in thoughts. Some time i am very passionate about an issue and the same issues looks frivilous some other time. What brainwave is causing this? or is there some entrainment to steady this pattern, drop inhibition and have clarity of thought at all times. ~S~

03-Oct-2006, Raven

Being nervous in front of groups is a common problem, Satish. Keep in mind that your brainwave patterns are not the "cause" of the situation. They are more like a by-product of your current situation. Let's use meditation as an example. We hook Tibetan lamas up to EEG devices and ask them to enter into a very deep state of meditation. Once they have achieved this we take a measurement of their brainwaves and find that their brains are producing much higher delta waves than they would in ordinary, waking consciousness. If we misinterpret the data we might think that the delta waves "caused" the lamas to enter into meditation. In truth, it is exactly the other way around. The lamas entered their meditative state and as a by-product of this state the brain increases its delta wave production. Some would argue that the delta waves are the reason for the meditative state, but I would counter that argument by calling their attention to the fact that delta waves are also found in deep levels of sleep. So if delta waves "cause" sleep, why didn't the lamas just go to sleep when their brains were producing all those delta waves? Why meditation and not sleep? The answer is that there is a "correlation" between delta waves and mediation, and there is a "correlation" between delta waves and sleep. "Correlation" and "causation" are not the same things. Many people, when they are anxious, nervous or agitated, have a great increase in their brain production of beta waves in the 25Hz to 40Hz range. That doesn't mean those waves are causing the anxiety. However, there is probably a correlation between the two. So in your case you could listen to some slower wave entrainment programs before getting up in front of people. That might help, but often it isn't practical to be sitting on the stand waiting to speak to a group of people with a set of headphones on. Also, what if your nerves act up during the time you are speaking? Not much chance of your listening to an entrainment program at that point. You would probably do better using some deep, rhythmic abdominal breathing. This kind of breathing quite naturally slows your brainwaves down. Better yet, use an entrainment program while you practice the breathing technique. One will enhance the other. Then before you speak, use the breathing technique. And if you get nervous while you're speaking, pause and take a mini-deep breath or two. It isn't difficult to sneak them in, and because you have conditioned yourself to relax and slow down by breathing you'll find in time that taking even a couple of deep breaths acts as a trigger for the nerves to calm down and the brainwaves to slow. One nice technique for breathing is to imagine you are breathing into and out of your heart, right in the center of your chest. Breathe in for 5 seconds, breathe out for 5 seconds. No big pauses inbetween breaths. Just in for 5, out for 5, and imagine the breath going directly into and out of your heart. This is a breathing technique that is taught to people who have hypertension (high blood pressure). It slows the heart rate, decreases blood pressure, and tends to lead the brain into a state that produces more alpha waves. Try that and see if it helps. ~Raven~

09-Oct-2006, Brett

Raven how do I create isochronic tones with Bgen? B

11-Oct-2006, Raven

Hi, Brett. To get isochronic waves with the Bwgen software you need to go to the "Sound" tab, then click the "Modulation" button. By default it's set to Off. A dropdown menu will appear on which you need to make a change. It will say "No Modulation". Change that to "User Defined". Now that you're set up to create isochronic waves you need to figure out how to specify the Hz frequency. All isochronic waves are is a modulation of the volume, from a higher volume to a lower one, or even to no volume, then back to the original volume, and so forth. The rate at which you modulate the volume IS the isochronic wave. Once you set modulation to "User Defined", as outlined above, you'll see the setting controls for modulation. Whatever Hz frequency you want your wave to be, just divide that number into 1000. If you get a number with a decimal (i.e., 1000 divided by 12 = 83.333333...), just round up or down to the nearest whole number. That will get you close enough. So, as in the example above, if you wanted a nice, 12Hz alpha wave in isochronics, you would set the modulation to 83 milliseconds. If you wanted a 6Hz theta wave you'd set it to 167 milliseconds (that's 1000 divided by 6, rounded up to the nearest whole number.) That's all there is to it. ~R~

14-Oct-2006, Raj

Can some1 help me on how to listen to *.bwg files. I downloaded swift sound software but not supporting *.bwg. I only have laptop and don't have the licence to use bwg s/w from the internet.

16-Oct-2006, Raven

You must have the Bwgen program to run .bwg files. The free version of the program plays only those presets that come with the program itself. To import and use presets created by other people you must purchase the full version of the Bwgen software. ~R~

17-Oct-2006, Seeker

I have been testing this preset for 3 days,two times on a single day.After 10 minutes i didnt fell my body.After 15 minutes i felt very relaxed. This preset is even good to listem,when you go to sleep.Very good preset overall: 30/10,nice work !! Is this preset good for lucid dreaming, to listen after WBTB?

17-Oct-2006, Raven

Primal Overtones is right at the theta/delta cusp(4Hz) so it could be used for lucid dreaming. I'm not sure what the acronym you used "WBTB" means. Sorry. ~R~

19-Oct-2006, Tyler

Raven, is it okay for one to overlap isochronic tones, or does this ruin the effect? also how do monarul beats work and how can i incorporate them into a preset with binarul and isochrinic beats? thanks so much, i love your presets. ~Tyler

19-Oct-2006, clau

Hello Raven, I read all that you say here and I learn interesting things. I like your preset, it very god work! I have one question: what you say abaut Box X metod (create by James Mann).With this method, are used 2 voice and result 2 binaural and two monaural beats. I ask your advice, because you I think you know what you say. Thanks!

20-Oct-2006, Kirk

Raven, I know you do private commisions and such, but do you have any commercial CD's available to the public? I've downloaded all your free stuff, and I like it very much. I'd like more and I'm willing to pay for it. Kirk

20-Oct-2006, Raven

Kirk, I am slowly but surely working up a collection of commercial programs that I will offer for those who wish to purchase them. The ones I offer for free download are very high quality even though they are mp3 compressed and, of course, shortened in length so that the size is small enough for me to upload and for you folks to be able to download. I would venture to say that they are as effective, and probably more effective than just about anything else you will find commercially available on the market today. For one thing, it is only in the relatively recent times that isochronic have wave forms have been recognized as being superior in many ways to their more well known binaural cousins. The combination of all three, binaural, monaural and isochronic waves is something very few manufacturers are putting out. So be patient. In the meantime I'll most likely add a few more downloadable programs to the Savefile.com site. Quite honestly, it's more important to me that as many people as possible be able to obtain and use these kinds of tools than it is that I make a financial profit from it. I get quite a few e-mails from people asking about them, or for help in creating their own programs, and probably 50% or slightly more of these come from people who live outside the USA. Many of them come from countries in which their currency value is far below the US dollar. If I were to ask them to pay even a few dollars for the costs of programs it could translate into a week's worth of wages in their currency. They'd never be able to afford it. So my main focus has been on creating and offering as much as I can for free download. So, again, be patient. Ultimately I will offer commercial CDs for those who would like them. ~R~

20-Oct-2006, Raven

Clau, mixing binaural, monaural and isochronic wave formats is not only "OK", it is much more effective than using any one of them alone. ~R~

22-Oct-2006, jen

I've downloaded the mp3 files to my Itunes and am going to try and burn them to my Ipod or a CD. I really like them. Eternity is actually a bit...intense and primal. I emailed you privately. I definitely would love some kind of CD in mostly theta/delta. Your work is great and wonderful. Thank you.

02-Nov-2006, Seeker

WBTB is a technic to increase posibility to have a lucid dreams.It means to wake up after 4-6 hours after the first sleep,try not go sleep for 30-60 minutes and then go to sleep.

03-Dec-2006, ADMINISTRATOR

WARNING, last warning!!! , the next spammer will be blocked by his ISP. new rule: IT IS FORBIDDEN TO POST LINKS, NOT REFERRING TO A SITE CORRESPONDING TO BWGEN OR SIMILLIAR SOUND OR FREQUENCYS Being blocked by your ISP means: YOU WIL LOOSE YOUR INTERNETCONNECTION FOR EVER !!! The fine for spamming and messing up websites is $10.000 (in Europe) SO BE ADVICED

03-Apr-2007, Valintino

Hello, Your site is great. Regards, Valintino Guxxi

12-Apr-2007, Valintino

Hello, Your site is great. Regards, Valintino Guxxi

24-Apr-2007, Pedro

Hello Ravens, I write to you from Spain, to inform to me if the archives that tapeworms in savefile.com, Mayan, Eternity 5,5, Late 7,83 of Schuman, etc. in MP3 follow in a servant free; thank you very much by your work and study of brainwave. A greeting. Pedro

05-May-2007, Bob

Hey Webmaster/Moderator wake up and clean up this spam! Everybody should send a complaint email to this site We didn't pay $30 or $40 just to let them not up date it and have it die! If nothing gets done then you should demand your money back..

12-Nov-2007, Mr.Ripley

I'm asking my money back if the site ain't getting updated anymore.

22-Jan-2009, Admin

I'll be putting up my fourm up soon with many cool topics. I used to always listen to bwgen for learning and relaxing. It suck what they did to this site and they don't update it anymore. By the my website is. www.talk-planet.com ( coming soon ) Be sure to come by, i'll have a forum just for bwgen, a wide topic for the most point.

23-Dec-2009, TONY

Hi, Im back , be sure to check my site in jan 2010.It will be ready. Thanks. www.puremindpower.com also check out few recommended sites : www.zoxpro.com www.mylaxman.com www.ahmedbaki.com

09-Mar-2010, rnpcpj

1Ri7zP <a href="http://blopgpzsluhd.com/">blopgpzsluhd</a>, [url=http://pmafihwbxppq.com/]pmafihwbxppq[/url], [link=http://feocqlcfshrb.com/]feocqlcfshrb[/link], http://azboerhxmdxj.com/

26-Aug-2011, buy provera online

Really great article with very interesting information. You might want to follow up to this topic!?! 2012

28-Aug-2011, buy flagyl

Really interesting blog, keep up the good work!

06-Sep-2011, seroquel

Thanks for tris interesting information! I found it very useful =)

Add your comment